"SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media" (silentbutnotreallydeadly)
04/09/2018 at 19:43 • Filed to: None | 0 | 26 |
...in Australian dollars anyway.
AU$74,990 before on road costs. For that you get a faux off-road racer in the guise of a faux dual cab utility vehicle. It’s faux because all the utility has been taken out of it by fitting long travel Fox shocks, aluminium control arms and a 2.0 litre Eco Boost engine dropping 157 kW and 500 torques through a 10 speed automatic box...so it will probably go like a shower of shit.
It is so expensive and so impractical that it is bound to sell in ridiculous volume...and VW, Mercedes-Benz and Toyota are all coming to the same party too.
What an odd world we live in. Question is...is this a bubble?
HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
> SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
04/09/2018 at 20:00 | 0 |
$57,736 USD.
The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
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04/09/2018 at 20:10 | 0 |
$73,534CAD
farscythe - makin da cawfee!
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04/09/2018 at 20:13 | 0 |
found some barely used ones for 90 grand european
(100 miles on the clock... so im guessing some dealership magic happened to get em here... kinda surprised they’re under 100 k tbh)
but yeah... not for sale here officially
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
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04/09/2018 at 20:15 | 0 |
2.7 Ecoboost for USA or GTFO
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
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04/09/2018 at 20:30 | 0 |
So probably 50,000 USD. Sounds about right with the Colorado ZR2 and Tacoma TRD Pro being low to mod 40,000.
atfsgeoff
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04/09/2018 at 21:49 | 0 |
Err’body wants a little (but not that little) slice of ‘MURICA
I’m wondering how many international buyers of the Ranger Raptor would be even happier with a full size Raptor, but can’t get it in their home country.
benjrblant
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04/09/2018 at 22:27 | 1 |
Your Y61 is more ute than the raptor. American pickups are in a sort of weird spot right now. A vehicle that was once designed solely for utility is now rarely used for utility and as the highest profit margin items, manufacturers are putting a ton of effort into marketing them. This is why we get stuff like the F-350 King Ranch starting at 60 000USD and the Raptor at 58 000USD. Half-ton pickups can even be optioned to 100 000USD now and come in every flavor from rugged to plush.
boxrocket
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04/09/2018 at 23:30 | 0 |
Worth it!
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> benjrblant
04/10/2018 at 00:33 | 0 |
Which is why I question the logic of the Ranger and especially the Ranger Raptor in the North American market. Basically you can get an F-100 for the same sort of coin.
And before anyone arcs up about Australia being expensive...Oz spec Rangers are manufactured in Thailand (a low cost country) and come to Oz under a free trade agreement so no tariffs. Ford is making good coin on these...
And yep you are spot on. Dual cab utes are now recreational toys...but I can’t help thinking that this is something of a craze rather than a long term thing.
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> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/10/2018 at 00:35 | 0 |
GTFGone then. Besides the 2.7 can be had far cheaper in the F-100...
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> boxrocket
04/10/2018 at 00:37 | 1 |
As a daily driver? Stuck in city traffic. Clinging to a dream that you’ll probably never realise...at least that’s how I imagine the majority owner experience...
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> HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
04/10/2018 at 00:38 | 0 |
And the F-Series Raptor is how much?
duurtlang
> farscythe - makin da cawfee!
04/10/2018 at 02:22 | 1 |
As a private vehicle I’d be surprised if they’re under €200k, given their emissions. However, I bet you can register them much cheaper under a company, evading the bulk of the emissions taxes.
duurtlang
> atfsgeoff
04/10/2018 at 02:24 | 1 |
I imagine most (LHD) markets can get full size raptors. I’ve seen a few in Europe. It looks absurdly out of place and the owners somehow look like cocks automatically, but if you want one you can get a grey market import one. No 25 year import ban bullshit.
atfsgeoff
> duurtlang
04/10/2018 at 02:27 | 0 |
I just looked it up, and the 2018 Raptor is only 0.2 inches narrower than a Hummer H1. Incredible. I imagine a new Raptor would be completely impossible to navigate through many European city centers.
duurtlang
> atfsgeoff
04/10/2018 at 02:58 | 0 |
Well, vehicles like Mercedes Sprinters and even full size buses and tractor trailers tend to navigate most places as well. Doesn’t mean it’s comfortable to do so though. I doubt it’ll fit in a normal sized parking spot either. It’s a vehicle for farmers and people living in rural areas mostly.
I spotted a Raptor on the Nürburgring last year. With literally smoking brakes it entered the parking lot. It looked out of place there too.
boxrocket
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04/10/2018 at 06:35 | 0 |
Might as well enjoy life. If you’re equipped to have an adventure and then have an opportunity, you’re more likely to actually go and do it.
Besides, not everyone shares the same experience as you. I for one live less than 5 miles from work (about 10-15 minute drive depending on time of day), and my house and work are both in the suburbs. I live less than 45 minutes from a decent off-road park and trails frequented by Jeeps, Toyotas, and Land Rovers (and now side-by-sides). I also live less than 2 hours away from a big off-road and mudding complex with just about every sort of off-road vehicle might show up.
The idea of living in a crowded city where driving is more of a punishment than a pleasure is abhorrent, and why I bought my house in the area I did.
pip bip - choose Corrour
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04/10/2018 at 06:39 | 0 |
tell ‘em they’re dreaming
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> boxrocket
04/10/2018 at 10:07 | 0 |
I live in regional Australia. Opportunities everywhere to do silly things off road. And the Raptor is not the tool I would use...but then I wouldn’t use the obvious 75 series alternative either... because I can’t afford that either. Simple thing is that I wouldn’t buy a ute that might be a hell of a drive but can’t actually be much of a ute.
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> pip bip - choose Corrour
04/10/2018 at 10:08 | 1 |
They are dreaming of fat profits...
CRider
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04/11/2018 at 04:43 | 0 |
$50,115 USD in the US. But keep in mind the Australia tax. A Mustang is almost $48k USD in Australia, and that’s for a base model Ecoboost. That’s a $25k car.
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> CRider
04/11/2018 at 05:26 | 0 |
Unreasonable comparison. RHD Mustang is a very low volume exercise for Ford so higher costs. Plus it comes from a high cost manufacturing country. Plus I suggest you take a good look at the spec list for the Oz car. And above all that...there is a six month waiting list with the high margins and no deals that that implies...
If you think the Ranger Raptor is going to be significantly cheaper than US$50,000 when it finally touches down then you are thinking wishfully. Unless Ford choose to strip the specs out I suspect it won’t be much less than US$45,000.
CRider
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04/11/2018 at 06:04 | 0 |
Ford also sells a RHD Mustang in Europe so it’s not exactly a special market car- it was designed that way from the ground up. And besides, the Focus costs 15.4% more in Australia than it does in the US (About $3k USD more) and that’s the definition of a high volume car.
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> CRider
04/11/2018 at 06:59 | 0 |
And how much does that Mustang cost in Europe?
As for the Focus....true. But it’s low volume here. And again...the specification is not the same as in the US (and your Focus is made in North America).
CRider
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04/11/2018 at 14:18 | 0 |
The Mustang costs about the same in the UK as it does in Australia, including registration fees and taxes and a 20% VAT. I don’t know if that’s also included in the price in Aus, but I know it isn’t added to the sticker price in the US.
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> CRider
04/11/2018 at 18:30 | 0 |
The Ford Oz website usually gives you a recommended retail driveaway price on you tell it what state you are in (which influences the registration fees). What you actually pay depends on what you can negotiate from the dealer’s margin which ATM is not much.